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Diet Cravings.

Postby VinodVarma » Thu Apr 02, 2009 2:30 pm

On a meat, veg & nuts diet now from Jon Wong.
3rd day into it.
Having inexplicable cravings for sweet foods.
I'm staring at the grapes in the fridge cause they look all to juicy.

Got any suggestions or recommendations for sweet carb free goodness?
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Re: Diet Cravings.

Postby Twxian » Thu Apr 02, 2009 2:32 pm

just eat it :twisted:
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Re: Diet Cravings.

Postby galapogos » Thu Apr 02, 2009 2:33 pm

Twxian wrote:just eat it :twisted:

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Re: Diet Cravings.

Postby VinodVarma » Thu Apr 02, 2009 2:37 pm

Wah lau eh. Like that epic fail diet.

Willpower. Let's see how long it lasts.
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Re: Diet Cravings.

Postby Steph_Parker » Thu Apr 02, 2009 2:45 pm

when i get a sweet tooth, i turn to fruits.
oops. but im trying to cut down. or eat those fruits for pwo?
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Re: Diet Cravings.

Postby Twxian » Thu Apr 02, 2009 2:46 pm

u want sweet aand no calories ah take coke zero lor like what sufian always drink one
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Re: Diet Cravings.

Postby Weib » Thu Apr 02, 2009 2:49 pm

If you've been doing it properly it's a good sign.
Its a time where your brain is screaming out for glucose.

Frankly its a first step to dieting, 2nd one would be fighting the hunger demon when you cut calories.
Thats the worst of the lot.
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Re: Diet Cravings.

Postby VinodVarma » Thu Apr 02, 2009 2:53 pm

Grrrr. Then I'm tempted to go for a run just to eat something sweet.
Not sure about fruits pwo just been taking shakes.
People diet noob.
First time following any rules.
I'm the live to eat type. :(
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Re: Diet Cravings.

Postby VinodVarma » Thu Apr 02, 2009 2:55 pm

Mmmm. Coke zero.
Think I'll go buy one carton.
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Re: Diet Cravings.

Postby Twxian » Thu Apr 02, 2009 2:56 pm

moi ish also live to eat so no choice become buibui ... :oops:
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Re: Diet Cravings.

Postby galapogos » Thu Apr 02, 2009 2:57 pm

Twxian wrote:u want sweet aand no calories ah take coke zero lor like what sufian always drink one

dun forget to mix it with almonds, whey protein powder and frozen blueberries.
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Re: Diet Cravings.

Postby VinodVarma » Thu Apr 02, 2009 2:58 pm

Blend?
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Re: Diet Cravings.

Postby M.Hunter » Thu Apr 02, 2009 3:04 pm

galapogos wrote: dun forget to mix it with almonds, whey protein powder and frozen blueberries.


Sounds nice! :rock:
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Re: Diet Cravings.

Postby Weib » Thu Apr 02, 2009 3:05 pm

Don't forget your spinach and broccoli too to balance it out with the greens
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Re: Diet Cravings.

Postby shion1 » Thu Apr 02, 2009 3:12 pm

Aiyoh, so troublesome! Just drink a shake lah. Shake sweet mah. If not just grab 2 grapes and eat it and tell yourself that's it! 2 grapes for balance, in case he feels imbalance just eating one grape. :twisted:
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Re: Diet Cravings.

Postby galapogos » Thu Apr 02, 2009 3:24 pm

shion1 wrote:Aiyoh, so troublesome! Just drink a shake lah. Shake sweet mah. If not just grab 2 grapes and eat it and tell yourself that's it! 2 grapes for balance, in case he feels imbalance just eating one grape. :twisted:

wah dis ish funny :lol:
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Re: Diet Cravings.

Postby vicvic » Thu Apr 02, 2009 3:32 pm

if it really doesn't work out just blend fruits with your whey as PWO
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Re: Diet Cravings.

Postby notle » Thu Apr 02, 2009 4:35 pm

best thing u can do is keep yourself busy, get more sleep and drink more.

sugar craving is a mental thing. go cold turkey and get past it, and it will be alot easier.
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Re: Diet Cravings.

Postby Steph_Parker » Thu Apr 02, 2009 5:12 pm

with that said, im gonna eat half a mini apple now.
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Re: Diet Cravings.

Postby Twxian » Thu Apr 02, 2009 5:21 pm

how big is a mini apple ??? :think:
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Re: Diet Cravings.

Postby Steph_Parker » Thu Apr 02, 2009 5:24 pm

Twxian wrote:how big is a mini apple ??? :think:


fist size. :oops: or slightly smaller by abit.
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Re: Diet Cravings.

Postby Sufian » Thu Apr 02, 2009 6:27 pm

Diet craving tips :
1) get your vision away from food. Keep your diet food sources in abundance. Lesser chance of cheating and using the excuse, "but I dont have clean food here.. no choice!"

2) keep yourself occupied. When u are occupied, u wont think of sweet food.

3) chew your food slowly, every bite. This keeps u fuller longer.

4) Get alternative sweets. For me.. it is Xtend and coke zero.

5) Make your dietitng a habit, then it will be natural. Damn, mine is a habit that I find hard to break.

6) avoid shakes. Choose real food when possible. Shakes just make u hungry in less than an hour's time.

7) Eat more veges. Eat less fruits.

8) Eat sludge. Tastes like ice-cream. Ben And Jerries.
Version 1:
Protein Powder ( I use 2 scoops for 44g protein)
almonds ( I use 27g for 15g of fat)
a bit of water, just enough for the mixture to gel together, but not enough to make it runny at all.

Version 2:
Same as above, just add 99g blueberries

Version 3:
Same as Version 1, just add Oats. (For me its 50g oats for 35g carbs)

Version 4:
This is the most power one...
Use version 2, but instead of plain water, use coke zero.
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Re: Diet Cravings.

Postby flamekid » Thu Apr 02, 2009 10:43 pm

or can spam redoxon also. =D
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Re: Diet Cravings.

Postby aaron » Thu Apr 02, 2009 11:28 pm

yeah vit c helps tons with cravings for the sweet shit, get redoxon brother. but dont go above 7g/hr, anymore than that for me i go toilet like some dick lol. for me la it works.
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Re: Diet Cravings.

Postby Ryan.carpediem » Fri Apr 03, 2009 12:31 am

VinodVarma wrote:On a meat, veg & nuts diet now from Jon Wong.
3rd day into it.
Having inexplicable cravings for sweet foods.
I'm staring at the grapes in the fridge cause they look all to juicy.

Got any suggestions or recommendations for sweet carb free goodness?


I 'm not exactly the most disciplined among the guys here, but i'll try to offer my experience since I'm on the same diet as you( meat veg, eggs, nuts, no carbs except PWO)

For me, i still like my shakes so in tt sense I would prob advise the opposite of Sufian. Then again tt's just me.

I rmb reading on t-nation tt Charles Poliquin advised gorging oneself on broccoli and other healthy vegetables, you could try this to satisfy the carb cravings.
EDIT: according to Aaron, try to avoid root vegetables like potatoes, radishes, carrots.
Redoxant and vitamin C tablet/xtend is another great suggestion by Aaron.

I think most importantly however, is to remind yourself why you want to do it, why you want to push yourself so hard; find something tt's worth it. For me, it's because I've never been on such a fucking restrictive diet before and I want to stretch myself mentally and physically. quite abstract la, but I believe there's more joy in enjoying something tt you have waited long/ sacrificed a lot for. Else you tend to take it for granted.

Have you tried asking Jon Wong / daniel/edwin for tips?

Just a word of encouragement : I believe you will be able to see results fast if you stick to this: after all, you've gone from one extreme of eating everything and anything in all amounts to a diet tt's just about as clean as one can get. 8)

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Re: Diet Cravings.

Postby Weib » Fri Apr 03, 2009 12:46 am

Well general rule of thumb, if you're not hungry on a cut diet then sometimes is wrong somewhere.
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Re: Diet Cravings.

Postby Derek » Fri Apr 03, 2009 1:03 am

aaron wrote:yeah vit c helps tons with cravings for the sweet shit, get redoxon brother. but dont go above 7g/hr, anymore than that for me i go toilet like some dick lol. for me la it works.


7 GRAMS an hour? What the heck?
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Re: Diet Cravings.

Postby Derek » Fri Apr 03, 2009 1:04 am

Usually if I find that I have sweet cravings, I'd have them at breakfast only. Gives you something to look forward to during the nights. Of course, don't go nuts on the sweet stuff.
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Re: Diet Cravings.

Postby VinodVarma » Fri Apr 03, 2009 4:48 pm

Wow. A tonne of advice here. Thanks alot guys!

It's really true.
When you don't have much choice you tend to say it's alright and just break the diet.
Just back from a bbq/chalet.
Fortunately there was quite abit of decently marinated meat.
So that was good.
But had to control myself over the potatoes and buns and otah and noodles and evil carbs and what not.
Sigh.
Skipped the whiskey.
Which was torturous.
I'm usually one of the bigger drinkers.
Let's just say that when you're sober, drunk people are a lot more idiotic and alot less fun.

From the past few days of experience, it really isn't easy eating clean when you're out.
To really stick to dieting when there are so many temptations is not easy.
I remember about a month or two back trying to clean up my diet.
Packed meat for the whole day.
First couple of meals were fine.
Then after a while, the meat started tasting and smelling funny.
So I decided that wasn't good and stopped.

Gah. I don't even know why I'm doing this.
Oh Wait.

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Re: Diet Cravings.

Postby Ryan.carpediem » Fri Apr 03, 2009 5:33 pm

VinodVarma wrote:Wow. A tonne of advice here. Thanks alot guys!

It's really true.
When you don't have much choice you tend to say it's alright and just break the diet.
Just back from a bbq/chalet.
Fortunately there was quite abit of decently marinated meat.
So that was good.
But had to control myself over the potatoes and buns and otah and noodles and evil carbs and what not.
Sigh.
Skipped the whiskey.
Which was torturous.
I'm usually one of the bigger drinkers.
Let's just say that when you're sober, drunk people are a lot more idiotic and alot less fun.

From the past few days of experience, it really isn't easy eating clean when you're out.
To really stick to dieting when there are so many temptations is not easy.
I remember about a month or two back trying to clean up my diet.
Packed meat for the whole day.
First couple of meals were fine.
Then after a while, the meat started tasting and smelling funny.
So I decided that wasn't good and stopped.

Gah. I don't even know why I'm doing this.
Oh Wait.
Image
Yeah it's worth it.

Kudos for the great effort man. At least you're trying. Meat wise, I bring sardines/tuna out, plus a bit of eggs: 2 scrambled 2 hard boiled as these can last nearly a whole day without spoiling ( tried it from morn to evening). you could try tt out for a while. tuna thoug, according to jon wong is not very gd due tot he mercury content whereas for small fish like sardine he said it's ok. Oh yes, I bring 1 small container for 1 serving of protein too. maybe you could try asking the rest of the clients for tips, or the coaches.

Btw, tt guy in the pic looks a bit like you lol. he's less good-looking though.

Coach Daniel used to be 103kg in army. maybe his current physique can serve as a form of inspiration for you.
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