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Re: Kenshin Kimura "The next big thing" in MMA

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 12:30 pm
by galapogos
no lah he wanted to take the punch not dodge it.

Re: Kenshin Kimura "The next big thing" in MMA

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 10:13 pm
by Weib
reminds me of chad waterbury -
Well, fuck it, I'm probably going to out myself by posting this. Whatever.

I train at Rickson's. Here is what went down.

Chad showed up, as a white belt. Knew nothing. Even though he lied when he wrote his "Hammer Down" articles saying he had a private BJJ coach. He got smoked by every white belt there.

Now, who cares, right? If you're new, you get smoked? But he had been writing articles about MMA and saying he trained BJJ and MMA. Lies. Period.

He was so immobile during class that he could barely do the warm-ups. He was big as hell though. Give credit where it's due. But no speed or flexibility at all. Any of the stuff he says about being mobile are total bullshit.

He handed out a bunch of free copies of his book. Ingratiated himself to everyone. So they let him start teaching a "Power Training" Class. It's basically a workout class.

Now, the guys at the school seem to like him. He kisses everyone's ass. Good for him.

He has said he's trained a "K-1" fighter. Lie. A guy (I'm not going to use names) fought in K-1 MMA. Chad was NOT his S&C coach, though Chad did give him a free copy of his book. I was there and saw him give away the book. Is that all it takes to be a S&C coach?

Now he says he trains "elite fighters." If you read his T-Mag articles, the guy pictures in his exercises demonstrations is not an elite fighter. Not even close. It's a nice guy, but not an "elite" fighter. Not going to drag him into this, as I like him. But, agian, he's not a fighter at all. Just a nice guy who does BJJ.

Chad did train Toby Grear (I use his name only because he said so publicly), who is a guy doing small shows - mostly TFA. I think someone who posts in this forum (not going to out him, either!) trains with Toby at 10th Planet. So he can get more detail on that.

He said he's training Kron. I don't know if this is true.

Oh, he and I also train at the same gym (Gold's in Venice). He lifts good weights, but nothing like what he represents on the site. He really isn't shit so far as Gold's is concerned. (Nor am I; but I don't claim to be doing 3X BW dead lifts, either.)

Long story short: "The Waterbury Story" is half outright lies and half exaggerations. He has respectable size and strength, but nothing near what he claims. And his BJJ/MMA pedigree is outright fraudulent. He trained for like one fucking month before quitting. He's still writing articles, though, lol.
http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/?go=for ... ge=1&pc=57

Re: Kenshin Kimura "The next big thing" in MMA

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 11:05 pm
by vicvic
i read the entire thread, it's was an eye opener indeed. never expected chad to be like that. though i did not go to TN to do some digging, the way wiggy debated had convinced me man.

*inserts Peter Chao's Laughter

Re: Kenshin Kimura "The next big thing" in MMA

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 11:44 pm
by Weib
You ain't seen nothing yet, the whole T-bagging douches will be picked clean.
shit lots of skeletons in the closet...

but I digress 8)

Re: Kenshin Kimura "The next big thing" in MMA

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 11:55 am
by nakorius
Weib wrote:reminds me of chad waterbury -
Well, fuck it, I'm probably going to out myself by posting this. Whatever.

I train at Rickson's. Here is what went down.

Chad showed up, as a white belt. Knew nothing. Even though he lied when he wrote his "Hammer Down" articles saying he had a private BJJ coach. He got smoked by every white belt there.

Now, who cares, right? If you're new, you get smoked? But he had been writing articles about MMA and saying he trained BJJ and MMA. Lies. Period.

He was so immobile during class that he could barely do the warm-ups. He was big as hell though. Give credit where it's due. But no speed or flexibility at all. Any of the stuff he says about being mobile are total bullshit.

He handed out a bunch of free copies of his book. Ingratiated himself to everyone. So they let him start teaching a "Power Training" Class. It's basically a workout class.

Now, the guys at the school seem to like him. He kisses everyone's ass. Good for him.

He has said he's trained a "K-1" fighter. Lie. A guy (I'm not going to use names) fought in K-1 MMA. Chad was NOT his S&C coach, though Chad did give him a free copy of his book. I was there and saw him give away the book. Is that all it takes to be a S&C coach?

Now he says he trains "elite fighters." If you read his T-Mag articles, the guy pictures in his exercises demonstrations is not an elite fighter. Not even close. It's a nice guy, but not an "elite" fighter. Not going to drag him into this, as I like him. But, agian, he's not a fighter at all. Just a nice guy who does BJJ.

Chad did train Toby Grear (I use his name only because he said so publicly), who is a guy doing small shows - mostly TFA. I think someone who posts in this forum (not going to out him, either!) trains with Toby at 10th Planet. So he can get more detail on that.

He said he's training Kron. I don't know if this is true.

Oh, he and I also train at the same gym (Gold's in Venice). He lifts good weights, but nothing like what he represents on the site. He really isn't shit so far as Gold's is concerned. (Nor am I; but I don't claim to be doing 3X BW dead lifts, either.)

Long story short: "The Waterbury Story" is half outright lies and half exaggerations. He has respectable size and strength, but nothing near what he claims. And his BJJ/MMA pedigree is outright fraudulent. He trained for like one fucking month before quitting. He's still writing articles, though, lol.
http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/?go=for ... ge=1&pc=57
Sounds like a certain Kiwi :finga:

Anyway... 3 months for 1 punch... I reckon he will need 3 decades for a fight?

Re: Kenshin Kimura "The next big thing" in MMA

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 5:22 pm
by Weib
ready for more guru gossip/hate?
Actually, not only am I impressed by Thibaudeau’s pre-Anaconda claim of being 5′9″ tall and 215 lbs @ 7% bf, which is about the same height, weight and condition that Mike Mentzer competed at in the late 1970s (but with drugs), but now, since he’s added 27 pounds more muscle on top of that, his pressing deserves some kudos too.

According to Biotest, Thibaudeau can do 5 reps of seated overhead presses with a few seconds rest between reps. Not bad when you consider that Paul Anderson, weighing 304 lbs, won the Olympic Gold medal in 1956 with just a 369-pound overhead press. Of course, there will be slight differences between the seated and standing version, but Thibaudeau could have repped Anderson’s weight. Also Doug Hepburn, weighing 299 lbs, set the world record in 1954 when he pressed 380 pounds. Thibaudeau probably could have gotten a few reps with that too.

Eventually Anderson brought the press record up to 409 pounds and steroids took over from there. Given Thibaudeau can do 375 x 5 with rest-pauses, he might be good for a 409 single as well – not bad considering he’s well over 100 pounds lighter than Anderson when he set that record.

Of course, smaller pre-drug era lifters, like 2-time Olympic Gold medalist and 27-time World Record holder Tommy Kono, only handled baby weights like Kono’s career-best 349.4 pounds when he broke the middle heavyweight world record, weighing 198 pounds. Thibaudeau would probably use that on a medium day, or for high-rep sets, or maybe if he didn’t get much sleep the night before or something.

Come to think of it, Thibaudeau’s Canadian, and the winning Clean & Jerk in the 207-231 lb weight class at the 2009 Canadian Senior Weightlifting Championships was only 355 pounds. Thibaudeau can press more than that on a light day. Now that he’s one of the strongest drug-free men in history at his bodyweight, he should certainly consider reviving his Olympic Weightlifting career and winning all those Canadian titles that he didn’t win back when he was actually competing.
a comment from Casey butts.

Re: Kenshin Kimura "The next big thing" in MMA

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 10:22 pm
by h
Be a man come to a forum of educated people and defend your bullshit.
i thought this was hilarious... otherwise, waste of time.
i think you should spend less time on internet forums.

Re: Kenshin Kimura "The next big thing" in MMA

Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 6:53 pm
by nakorius
no one try this? :oops:

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