Goi's Fitness Forum

I utilised a lot of machines in my regime some years back(smith machine, nautilius etc).When i had started to learn the proper form for the barbell and dumbbell lifts, my strength/mass/flexibility increased a lot more.

Now, whenever i attempt to go heavy on machines.My joints feel tight, restricted and painful.This occurs even on moderate weights.Therefore, i have almost cut out any form of machine work except for cable pulley systems.

Does anyone still incorporate any form of machine work in their training programme?

I use fixed movement machines to do very light isolations occasionally.

I tend to use for back:

- Hammer Strength has a good selection of back machines, though there doesn't tend to be as many of them here. I use it to go heavy for rows especially once I go beyond the range of the DB available.

- hamstrings on the rare occassion. Other than that cables are the only other machines I use.

I tried tricep extension recently and i feel the pain in my elbow.

Back to free weight, ahah yes, i started a bit of isolation recently.

i use lat machines and presses for activation and isolation purposes for rehab.

I use the machines. Especially the leg extension, leg curl, leg press, overhead press, the cables, the lat pulldowns, and the chest fly.

Before the young ones start to quote me on this, let me say that I do free weights first. Always. And its always Squats. Towards the end of my workout then I do machines.

Sufian wrote:I use the machines. Especially the leg extension, leg curl, leg press, overhead press, the cables, the lat pulldowns, and the chest fly.

Before the young ones start to quote me on this, let me say that I do free weights first. Always. And its always Squats. Towards the end of my workout then I do machines.

his warmups are like my workouts

vicvic wrote:

Sufian wrote:I use the machines. Especially the leg extension, leg curl, leg press, overhead press, the cables, the lat pulldowns, and the chest fly.

Before the young ones start to quote me on this, let me say that I do free weights first. Always. And its always Squats. Towards the end of my workout then I do machines.

his warmups are like my workouts

chiu are muscularly weak only....can train 1....juz like i m weak in met con....if our body both combine = sufian

wah lan... that means I am weak in both metcon and muscular.

ahahaha bryan and vic tio suan siao!

I share with both of them my secrets already. Up to them to beat me in my game. To think of it, Louis also. All of u know how I train.

Well I use cable machines all the time, mostly for rows. And the preacher curl machine lol.

Tried benching on the smith machine ONCE. Did not get past 5kg on each side. Too damn weird.

Weib wrote:ahahaha bryan and vic tio suan siao!

u call tt suan siao??? disappointed...

Den u kana pwn in hwz n by jerry is call wad???

Sufian wrote:wah lan... that means I am weak in both metcon and muscular.

Yah wat, now then you know?

This should be quite obvious.

But i find that those who can go heavy on freeweights have no problems with heavy weights on machines(with little adjustments) but the same cannot be said for those who can go heavy on machines only.

e.g

I have seen people put up 2 plates a side benching on the smith but struggled with 70kg on free barbell bench press.

alex wrote:This should be quite obvious.

But i find that those who can go heavy on freeweights have no problems with heavy weights on machines(with little adjustments) but the same cannot be said for those who can go heavy on machines only.

e.g

I have seen people put up 2 plates a side benching on the smith but struggled with 70kg on free barbell bench press.

this is because.. the smith when empty provides only 7.6kg of resistance.

I have been thinking it is 5kg all the time, how did you come to such a number?I am curious?

LOL

Last Sunday, there was a teenage boy.He is a bit of those pretentious douche- bag, kay kiang type, he told his friend after slapping on a plate on each side on the smith and loudly proclaim that he can bench 60kg.LOL.

The most funny part came where he attempted his heaviest set with a total of 45kg each side.Where he did 3 reps until his elbows hit 90 degrees not without his friend helping him with it.Thereafter, he announced that this is more than 2x his bodyweight.

haha

concept 2 and GHD bench (improvised lat pull down and flat bench)

alex wrote:I have been thinking it is 5kg all the time, how did you come to such a number?I am curious?

LOL

Last Sunday, there was a teenage boy.He is a bit of those pretentious douche- bag, kay kiang type, he told his friend after slapping on a plate on each side on the smith and loudly proclaim that he can bench 60kg.LOL.

The most funny part came where he attempted his heaviest set with a total of 45kg each side.Where he did 3 reps until his elbows hit 90 degrees not without his friend helping him with it.Thereafter, he announced that this is more than 2x his bodyweight.

haha

if i were you, i'll be an ass and tell him the accurate weight in front of his friends with a big smile

vicvic wrote:

alex wrote:I have been thinking it is 5kg all the time, how did you come to such a number?I am curious?

LOL

Last Sunday, there was a teenage boy.He is a bit of those pretentious douche- bag, kay kiang type, he told his friend after slapping on a plate on each side on the smith and loudly proclaim that he can bench 60kg.LOL.

The most funny part came where he attempted his heaviest set with a total of 45kg each side.Where he did 3 reps until his elbows hit 90 degrees not without his friend helping him with it.Thereafter, he announced that this is more than 2x his bodyweight.

haha

if i were you, i'll be an ass and tell him the accurate weight in front of his friends with a big smile

And then proceed to bench 120kg in front of them

KEVIN LIM wrote:concept 2 and GHD bench (improvised lat pull down and flat bench)

you getting these for the gym?

Actually the most funny was the aftermath, his friends came up to him and

eh what you siao sia

eh wah lan damn heavy sia

then he walked around the gym with his chest puffed out and then proceeded to do prawn deadlifts with the manufactured fixed t bar rows after that.

galapogos wrote:

KEVIN LIM wrote:concept 2 and GHD bench (improvised lat pull down and flat bench)

you getting these for the gym?

If I got grant and financial backing i will sure get them

KEVIN LIM wrote:If I got grant and financial backing i will sure get them

We can talk...

haha once i switched to free weights, i never want to go back to machines already...

xarope wrote:

KEVIN LIM wrote:If I got grant and financial backing i will sure get them

We can talk...

I love talking
PM? SMS? Mobile? Email?

alex wrote:This should be quite obvious.

But i find that those who can go heavy on freeweights have no problems with heavy weights on machines(with little adjustments) but the same cannot be said for those who can go heavy on machines only.

e.g

I have seen people put up 2 plates a side benching on the smith but struggled with 70kg on free barbell bench press.

Once in a blue moon,I go to Clubfitt use the pulldown machine.

aside from cable machines, i don't know how the machines will help me, so i don't use them (can't say i tried to find out either)
i used to jerk off on hammer strength machines doing heavy (for me, back then) press... i guess i got over it.

alex wrote: Last Sunday, there was a teenage boy.He is a bit of those pretentious douche- bag, kay kiang type, he told his friend after slapping on a plate on each side on the smith and loudly proclaim that he can bench 60kg.LOL.

The most funny part came where he attempted his heaviest set with a total of 45kg each side.Where he did 3 reps until his elbows hit 90 degrees not without his friend helping him with it.Thereafter, he announced that this is more than 2x his bodyweight.

haha

Wa piang each side 45kg on a smith, i dont think i can do it man.

M.Hunter wrote:

alex wrote: Last Sunday, there was a teenage boy.He is a bit of those pretentious douche- bag, kay kiang type, he told his friend after slapping on a plate on each side on the smith and loudly proclaim that he can bench 60kg.LOL.

The most funny part came where he attempted his heaviest set with a total of 45kg each side.Where he did 3 reps until his elbows hit 90 degrees not without his friend helping him with it.Thereafter, he announced that this is more than 2x his bodyweight.

haha

Wa piang each side 45kg on a smith, i dont think i can do it man.

Dont worry, i will gladly offer my invaluable assistance to your new PR of 2x BW.

How about this?



I guess the first part is here as well, for those interested

Hilarious!
good old comedy.