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Today's Sunday Times

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 4:04 pm
by galapogos
Did anyone read today's Sunday Times. Apparently there's an article "Arm-twisting by gyms" about local gym's methods of getting you to sign up.

True Fitness
Initial offer: $260/mth
Bargain offer: $84/mth
Total time spent: 60mins

California Fitness
Initial offer: $116/mth
Bargain offer: $74/mth plus 6 months free
Total time spent: 90mins

Fitness First
Initial offer: $160/mth
Bargain offer: $140/mth
Total time spent: 30mins

Not surprising for us, but I guess it's about time the general public know about such things :)

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 4:44 pm
by Weib
200 bucks for gym membership seems quite ridiculous.

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 6:31 pm
by Sufian
This is exactly why I am lucky to be member of hometeam gym.

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 8:22 am
by Canuck eh
Insert old Chinese proverb about a cow wanting to drink water.

I don't understand how people can be forced to do something they don't want when they can just walk away...

Coincidentally, in the same paper is the ongoing High 5 Notes saga...

People never learn and never take responsibility

Hopefully, there will be other options in this landscape soon

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 1:18 pm
by vurt
FF has always been ~$140 after GST since last year or two years ago. They just jack up the price to make it look like you got a bargain, like any other sly Asian merchant :roll:

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 1:29 pm
by galapogos
$30? NOOOOOOOO...I can't sell you $30, I sell you $30 today you come back tomorrow I close down!

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 7:48 pm
by vicvic
you seem like nice guy. i give you discount. 29.50!

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 9:51 pm
by Weib
Arm-twisting by gyms?

It pays to be fit, but some Singaporeans are paying a lot more than they had bargained for when they signed up to be members of the three big gyms in town.

They are also unhappy about the sales tactics employed by True Fitness, California Fitness and Fitness First, from pressure to get personal trainers to being quoted different prices.

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Jane (not her real name), a marketing manager, said she joined a gym near Orchard Road last month and has so far paid it a total of $3,049. All she had wanted was a basic membership.

But she was pressured into getting personal training after she paid $400 for two months' fees. Jane, 37, said she ended up paying another $2,568 for a total of 24 sessions of personal training. Her total $3,049 bill included processing fees.

'They had five guys coaxing me to take it up and I couldn't think,' she said. 'It was an elegant way to rob me, to cheat me like a kid.'

She is trying to get part of her money back from the gym, where she is still a member, which is why she did not want to reveal her name.

Engineer Ryan Teo, 32, left his gym in Orchard Road last year after his year-long membership expired. He had found out that he was paying about $90 monthly, $20 more than a colleague.

He was also annoyed that the gym kept pressing him to sign up for personal sessions.

Similar stories about 'unethical' hard-sell tactics used by some fitness centres here have appeared on Internet forums. Some also allege that gym staff reneged on verbal promises like free extensions or low renewal fees. Others were upset that their membership was automatically renewed through credit-card deductions.

Some said they have approached the Consumers Association of Singapore (Case) while others are contemplating legal action as a group. A check with Case showed that so far this year, it has received five complaints against Planet Fitness. In August, this gym was taken over by the True group and rebranded True Fitness.

Incidentally, a total of 211 complaints were lodged with Case this year, up from 131 last year, against True Yoga, which is also under the True group.

Most of the complaints were about pressure sales tactics, auto-renewal of contracts without prior notice, falling service standards and verbal promises not kept.

As for California Fitness, Case received 91 complaints last year and 82 so far this year.

Fitness First had three complaints last year and another three this year.

Fitness First has nine clubs in Singapore, California Fitness has four and True Fitness six.

Recalling her experience, Jane said she was first pressured into signing up for 12 sessions of training. But as soon as she agreed, the gym tried to hike it to 24.

The club manager, who had sweetened the first deal by cutting her monthly fee from $500 to $200, even swiped her credit card for 24 sessions before she had a chance to react, Jane claimed.

'I never thought such a thing would happen to me, but I just gave up fighting them,' she said.

Asked about the complaints lodged with Case, California Fitness president Colin Heggie said the company has a standard processing fee, joining fee and monthly fee. But it does run promotions on joining and processing fees. He added that his sales team is passionate about the brand and sometimes 'this enthusiasm is misconstrued'.


http://www.asiaone.com/Health/Fitnes...021-95191.html
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Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 9:54 pm
by galapogos
It's funny.

A women who's a marketing manager gets swingled by creative "marketing"

A guy who's an engineer refuses to budge, and cuts his losses by quitting.

Either women and marketing people are stupid(you're in marketing yet you were conned by marketing! doh!) or men and engineers are smart.

I'm glad I'm both of the latter!

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 10:35 pm
by Canuck eh
Oh come on... Be a man!!! Do the right thing!!!