whats the deal with Peter Rouse?

FISB · Post by **FISB** » Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:50 pm

OK, i've been around a bit and this guys name keeps popping up, some people swear by him, some people swear when his name in mentioned... what is the deal? does he have a PHD like he claims here: http://www.afperformancecenter.com/coaches.html is it true that he shut down a gym a short notice leaving people short-changed? http://www.crossfitla.com/cms/index.php/workouts/ there seems to be a lot of mixed feeling about this guy, would anyone recommend taking his courses? i'll be in LA for 6 months, so was thinking of doing it but it just seems a little weird that he says he has a PHD and masters and all that without listing the colleges he went to.... what's up with that? dun wanna waste my $$$ on fly-by-nighters lor!

FISB · Post by **FISB** » Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:53 pm

this is da post with lots of negatives about him; are they true? http://www.crossfitla.com/cms/index.php ... _function/

Weib · Post by **Weib** » Fri Apr 24, 2009 11:02 pm

In all honesty, what he does and knows is good.
He knows his shit and is able to teach if you're asking him questions.

But his ways of doing things without integrity is something that i do not agree with nor do i condone but disagree vs dislike is another matter.
I do not dislike him but i do not agree with his practices.

But with the money spent, i'll rather you take up other mentor ship courses - depending on what you want learn
Alwyn Cosgrove/Athlete performance/Gray Cook etc are far more valuable then what he teaches.
Even the PB summits to listen to people like mike boyle, stuart mcgill etc is worth the money.

FISB · Post by **FISB** » Fri Apr 24, 2009 11:07 pm

hmmm... think i'd rather be with a person with integrity and honesty who doesn't know everything rather than a liar who does; does that sum it up? did he actually know alot, or just bluff alot? i've worked with ang mo coaches b4, the ones with real education you can tell after 3-4 sessions - very deep knowledge, the one who don't have education, but many years in industry, good but cannot always explain or argue, get defensive etc when you question, which one he?

Weib · Post by **Weib** » Fri Apr 24, 2009 11:10 pm

He does, he is one person i've seen with all the latest educational DVDs/Books - leeched quite a fair bit from his collection.

But it depends on what you want to learn - there are many others in the US that are better imo.

BTW who are you?

FISB · Post by **FISB** » Fri Apr 24, 2009 11:14 pm

mpf.... have lots of dvd / mags already lor, nothin new ther, what i want is know is how to put a years program together for triathlon - and want to be able to ask detailed questions about changes at cell level etc

Weib · Post by **Weib** » Fri Apr 24, 2009 11:17 pm

lol whats the point?

FISB · Post by **FISB** » Fri Apr 24, 2009 11:19 pm

i'm Yu Jin Yuan, left Singapore in early 2006, but have house in KL, travel back to Singapore alot, moving to California soon for business, looking at LA or maybe San Francisco, just dun wan waste money if he's no goood

FISB · Post by **FISB** » Fri Apr 24, 2009 11:20 pm

Weib wrote:lol whats the point?

for knowledges sake, just me lah, goto doctor, always ask questions, must know all!

world so intersting!

Weib · Post by **Weib** » Fri Apr 24, 2009 11:23 pm

I think you need a coach more than you need the knowledge to design your own program lol.

But i think http://72.14.235.132/search?q=cache:HEx ... =firefox-a
AP Mentorship is a better deal, nick winkeman's on Strengthcoachpodcast has alot of good insights with the methology towards training program.
Makes sense and very practical approach.

h · Post by h » Fri Apr 24, 2009 11:27 pm

...does it matter how much he knows if he's not there to teach?

I don't know why the gym was closed...
all i know is one day i had a gym, the next day, i didn't... and afaik, nobody got a refund on anything.

Yxy · Post by **Yxy** » Fri Apr 24, 2009 11:28 pm

not going to comment on his knowledge, but the f***er owes me money

lips · Post by **lips** » Fri Apr 24, 2009 11:53 pm

knowledge good.
character fail.

your choice. give me another choice, i will attend his course, but only pay on the day itself!

haha

but for cpt, oh man, wanna keep this a secret. i pay $999 to attend twice.

Post by **galapogos** » Fri Apr 24, 2009 11:56 pm

wow, looks like this forum gets google hits for "Peter Rouse"?

lips · Post by **lips** » Fri Apr 24, 2009 11:56 pm

and they are debating over function of RA, that's all.

Not all coaches will agree on everything, hence, debate.

Post by **galapogos** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 12:11 am

Well here are the facts

Knowledge:
I think he has a lot of knowledge. However, he tends to make sweeping statements that are quite Poliquin-ish. But then again, he has claimed to be tight with Poliquin...and Cosgrove, Boyle, Mel Siff, Steve Cotter, Paul Chek, and probably a bunch of other famous coaches.

Claims:
Yeah he claims to have a PhD, Masters, have worked at Cancer wards, own a pharmaceutical lab for his various "supplements", trained quite a few Olympic/professional athletes, had an unbeaten record at K-1 fighting, has written dozens of books. However, none of this has ever been verified.

Character:
Not the best integrity around. Initially he was very friendly, bearing free gifts for all of us on our very first meeting. I believe many of us have gotten freebies from him before. Personally I've gotten mini bands, ab-wheel, foam rollers for free, and quite a few things that I bought from him were at a substantial discount. I've also gotten rehab services from him at a substantial discount, and so was my gym membership. I was lucky enough to pay by the month so I didn't get burned.
HOWEVER, he is highly unreliable and just has a general bochup attitude, and treats other people like he's superior and he shouldn't give a shit. Several times my appointments with him were canceled last minute, 1 time I showed up at his door for my appointment and the gym was closed, and he didn't answer his phone. He always has some "reason" why he's not there and uncontactable. I believe a batch of OPTS-CPT candidates also experienced the same thing.
He also closed his gym down with 2 days notice. Some members were not even told due to the timeline. Refunds were never given even though verbally promised. His gym closed down July 31 2008, so it's been almost a year now with no refunds. Since he has closed down his own forum(also without any notice at all) he is not contactable as he every email to him always seems to go to spam.
Refunds were also not given to people who pre-paid for the various courses that he was supposed to fly back here and conduct...he didn't, due to "Visa problems". Again, didn't bother to explain any further.
We also conducted a mass order of kettlebells and clubbells from him. This took months to arrive, and when it did, the clubbells were all missing. He blamed the Chinese suppliers for messing the order up and said he'd fix it. I was actually in contact with the suppliers and they said his account ran out of money so they didn't ship the clubbells. So, not sure who to believe.

All in all, he can be the nicest guy to you one day in person, and then totally bochup you the next day. I've learnt and received a lot from him so I'm not gonna tear him down like some others have done, however, his integrity really leaves a lot to be desired. So, caveat emptor.

FISB · Post by **FISB** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 12:18 am

that settles it then, wont touch lah! judge a man by his word and deeds!

I think i smell i liar, i mean, if he have PHD, why not mention the university? think i will take my money elsewhere

Post by **galapogos** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 12:23 am

no comments on whether he's lying. it has never been verified so it could be true or false. either i don't really care as i never went for his course, just his 1-2 hour workshops, which i've honestly picked up quite a lot of things from.

however, he's pretty much dead against any sort of steady state cardio, so he will be giving you hell if you told him you were training triathletes anyway

jerry.mobbs · Post by **jerry.mobbs** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 12:23 am

he's a thief

enough said

jerry.mobbs · Post by **jerry.mobbs** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 12:28 am

this is a new one

http://www.afperformancecenter.com/coaches.html

"Not only is Peter a world title athlete himself,"

What world title is this?

FISB · Post by **FISB** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 6:01 am

galapogos wrote:no comments on whether he's lying. it has never been verified so it could be true or false. either i don't really care as i never went for his course, just his 1-2 hour workshops, which i've honestly picked up quite a lot of things from.

however, he's pretty much dead against any sort of steady state cardio, so he will be giving you hell if you told him you were training triathletes anyway

ah... mistook me, i am training to DO triathlon, no training triathletes! against steady state cardio eh? that seems a little.... weird....

Weib · Post by **Weib** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 9:00 am

lol then you just need a coach thats all.

KEVIN LIM · Post by **KEVIN LIM** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 10:47 am

I hope he will meet some of the Aryan Brotherhood members there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZSHKhhB ... xt_from=TL

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