Why I don't drive here, let me count the ways

[Canuck eh]

Besides the fact that I am extra-appreciative of those who do drive in this forum. It just doesn't make sense.

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                                          Price    Tax   Fuel
City         Mid-price car                USD      USD    USD
Singapore Toyota Corolla Altis 1.6        39,300   661    1.16
Toronto   Toyota Camry                    17,100   59     0.67

http://www.ubs.com/1/ShowMedia/wealthma ... 2009_e.pdf
Source: p. 21, based on mid-priced cars in each respective city. Go to the report for the particulars.

(An interesting survey generally. I'm not sure, but it may be only based on services and the industrial sectors. I suspect the financial sector would have smaller differences. High cost =/= high standard of living)

And don't even start me on those behind the wheel...

[Weib]

There is no immediate need unless you're going up and down the island for work.
Public transport is efficient unlike other SEA countries.

This happen to us when we went for the CKT in malaysia.
Last day of the course, wanted to take a cab back to china town from bangsa(Town to amk) - its only a 15 mins drive.
Taxis didn't want to get caught in the peak hour jam/ we waiting for 30 mins - even after a few stopped by to ask us where were going.

Buses are are a rarity and the near by train station is a 25 min walk up and down a steep hill - we were exhausted from the course itself.

When we finally got a cab, it took us 45 mins just to get out of the jam - 25 RM via mete which was what seems to be a 8-9 RM on a non peak hour period.

[galapogos]

So, how do you intend to show your extra-appreciation of those who drive in this forum?

[Canuck eh]

I'll figure something out...

[xarope]

At some point, the crossover between $ cost and opportunity cost meet and breach. You fail to take that into account. e.g. I spend an extra half an hour coming to pick you up on sunday (20mins up, extra 10 mins back down to TPY), but then we wouldn't have had that extra 10 mins of conversation.

So what cost friendship?

[Canuck eh]

Priceless. For everything else, there's Mastercard?

[galapogos]

I'll take that Mastercard!

[xarope]

Diner's, for when you want to buy dinner to impress everyone, only to have the waiter come back and say they don't take that card...

[galapogos]

hey, i have that card!

[Bryan]

drive a van..its good

[xarope]

I was contemplating getting a van, until I realised I still couldn't fit 2m long oly bars in the back.

[galapogos]

drive a van..its good

but ceo sold his van for a swift leh...

[Bryan]

I was contemplating getting a van, until I realised I still couldn't fit 2m long oly bars in the back.

kangoo can open up the top.... HiAce i think can fit ur 2m oly bar.... its cheaper much cheaper too...$40 for full tank of diesel abt 16km/l for drivers like me... could b more for lighter foot drivers

[Bryan]

drive a van..its good

but ceo sold his van for a swift leh...

CEO rich ma... i poor....

[nakorius]

Phing, HiACE would be your choice, 2m O bars are no problem, you can place them diagonally.

It is about 60ish for a full tank (it has a 70 litre tank), pending on fuel prices (if you know where to go other than petrol stations).

- From a HiACE Driver

[nakorius]

kangoo can open up the top.... HiAce i think can fit ur 2m oly bar.... its cheaper much cheaper too...$40 for full tank of diesel abt 16km/l for drivers like me... could b more for lighter foot drivers

40 for a FULL TANK!? The tank is 70 Litres... Diesel is 1.257 per litre after discount

Chiu help me get one and replace my HiACE for me hokays?

I wan your version

[lips]

why i wanna sell that van.

it's coz i'm using upsize rims/tyre. it's not legal, LTA will keep fine-ing me for that!

now ah, i see van using sports rim with pretty good tyre like T1R etc liao, shiokkkkk...

only bad thing is speed limit and yearly inspection.

if i have a choice again, van!

just kidding, van is not cheap now, car better. that time van is much cheaper. ahha

[galapogos]

wah 1 say van cheaper 1 say car cheaper, who to believe wor?

[Canuck eh]

being carless is cheaper...

[galapogos]

being carless is cheaper...

until you need to go somewhere other than al ameen/azhar...

[Canuck eh]

taxi!

[lips]

wah 1 say van cheaper 1 say car cheaper, who to believe wor?

wah lau

my english so bad meh?

van not cheap now, car better. = car is cheaper?

van used to be very cheap at that time, the price diff between car and van is lower now, so take car better.

van has 0 scrap value except for its remaining COE. take this into consideration also.

tax abt the same? forget.
yearly inspection: waste time and money

but insurance is much cheaper